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i think that was a pretty dark moment of World history.
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Thanks.
It proves how racism against white people can happen. Even with the "institutionalized racism" definition, the Rhodesian scenario applies.
Luckily Mugabe is no longer the leader, but I'm not sure if the new leader is any better.
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You must be using an old map. Rhodesia ceased to exist 38 years ago.
For 37 years Robert Mugabe was the president of The Republic of Zimbabwe.
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@SuzyCreamcheese Agreed. You give Mugabe fertile land and a booming economy, and he turns it into a wasteland. Then he begs for the white farmers to come back after driving them away.
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Many of the locals were lifelong family friends and worked at the farm. They were all killed and replaced with Mugabe cronies.
She is a very sweet girl but needless to say, she's fairly bitter about the whole thing.
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In the next sentence we pity the European settlers. When the indigenes ruthlessly reclaim their land.
Such is the human condition.
I would suggest that it is far better to concentrate on the present and the future, and not dwell on events of the past.
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Killing and running off people because of their race is called racism. No matter who does it.
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“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.” - Benjamin Franklin So flat Earthers, man-made climate change deniers, and just science deniers.
I friended myself!
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I was simply pointing out the obvious contradiction and not taking any side.
Nonetheless. You seem to be advocating the ruthless colonialist oppression of indigenous Africans, as a justifiable means of improving African infrastructure.
And therefore are you also saying, that this in some way precludes the notion of racism.
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It is not a contradiction.
"In one sentence we vilify white colonialists and their oppression and ruthless treatment of indigenous African people.
In the next sentence we pity the European settlers. When the indigenes ruthlessly reclaim their land."
How is this a contradiction? In both cases racism is unacceptable. It is more contradictory if we only criticize one group of people.
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I agree that Rhodesia was better than Zimbabwe. I was arguing against @Fredsnephew's argument.
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I actually think we are pretty much in agreement.
Though I would take issue with your notion, that one persons ruthlessness can be regarded as better than another's.
I would suggest that, the Mugabe regimes actions were far more visible and came under much closer and clearer scrutiny.
Colonialist rule came before this present era of information technology. Much of the colonialist oppression and ruthlessness went unnoticed and unreported.
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Not sure what you're trying to say with this statement. Perhaps you could extrapolate.
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For some more prime native rulers during the slavery era, check out good King Gezo (Ghezo) of Dahomey (now Benin). The US and Britain actually went to war with him to get him to STOP selling his people into slavery. Queen Ravanalova of Madagascar was a real peach too. She enslaved or slaughtered fully half of her own subjects. Teodroos (Theodore) of Abyssinia...it goes on.
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No doubt.
But aren't these instances, just indicative of the human condition.
There will always be people who seek wealth and power over others. Whether they be British colonialists or Robert Mugabe.
Ok. The improvement of infrastructure was a consequence of colonialist rule.
But does material enhancement in anyway justify the brutality of oppression?
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Then you ask if this abuse is justified by one side - but not the other.
All the native African leaders I've named were equally brutalizing their own people. Not one of them brought their people so much as a wheel.
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Rhodesia, although racist, was much better than Zimbabwe. The only legal form of racism was the color bar. I'm not saying this was good, but I'm just pointing out that Rhodesia was better than Zimbabwe and the colony of Rhodesia, in which the governments themselves actively promoted genocide.
What's worse is that the leaders of Rhodesia decided to end racism against black people and made a new nation. This nation was called Zimbabwe-Rhodesia and even had black leadership. However, Mugabe destroyed this nation and made Zimbabwe which made genocide of white farmers legal.
Rhodesian racism existed, but right when it was being solved, Mugabe destroyed everything.
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Rhodesia used to be the second richest country in Africa, after South Africa. Now it is one of the poorest nations on Earth. It is very similar to what happened in Cuba, which also was one of the richest Caribbean nations and became almost as poor and totalitarian as North Korea.
Bottom line is, "Let us take revenge on our former oppressors" is not a very good premise for a political system. "Let us look at the present situation and see what we can cook up in it" is how a prosperous nation is built instead.
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